Showing posts with label A-12. Show all posts
Showing posts with label A-12. Show all posts

Friday, August 3, 2012

22 Years later, U.S. Navy Air in similar trouble


The A-12 was a gigantic failure for the U.S. Navy. Billed as a stealthy striker from the carrier to replace the A-6, it also had joint potential with the USAF.

There were so many design problems; the USAF ducked out of the program and the project was consuming an insane amount of cash. Then U.S. Defense Secretary Cheney, cancelled the project in early 1991 at the start of Desert Storm.

"The A-12 I did terminate. It was not an easy decision to make because it's an important requirement that we're trying to fulfill. But no one could tell me how much the program was going to cost, even just through the full scale development phase, or when it would be available. And data that had been presented at one point a few months ago turned out to be invalid and inaccurate."

Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney, 1991

What is interesting is that just a few months before, in the September/October 1990  (Vol. 72, No. 6) issue of Naval Aviation News (Then billed as the Navy's oldest periodical) the "editor" and boss Vice-Admiral Richard M. Dunleavy, Assistant Chief of Navl Operations (Air Warfare) penned a lead article, "A-12: Confronting the Flak".

According to Admiral Dunleavy, A-12 problems were workable and America needed it. No matter that first flight wasn't until 1992, if not later. Or that the development was 30% over designed aircraft weight yet somehow had passed "critical design review".  You may have seen similar words about troubled weapons systems before.

What makes the interesting article suddenly fascinating is when you compare it to today's situation. I have put the article below as it was a poorly imaged PDF file.

Upon reading the article, my thought was, "wow!". Today's top Naval leaders are saying the same thing about the troubled F-35C.

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Tuesday, May 24, 2011

Battle over the Navy's A-12 Avenger cancellation 20 years ago still not solved

It was big. It was heavy. It was overly complex. It cost a lot of money; and it never flew.

20 years-ago the stealth strike aircraft for the U.S. Navy known as the A-12 Avenger was cancelled by then U.S. Defense Secretary Dick Cheney due to insurmountable problems with the program.

"The A-12 I did terminate. It was not an easy decision to make because it's an important requirement that we're trying to fulfill. But no one could tell me how much the program was going to cost, even just through the full scale development phase, or when it would be available. And data that had been presented at one point a few months ago turned out to be invalid and inaccurate."

Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney, 1991.

After the cancellation, the U.S. Navy dusted off the plans for the advanced Hornet--something it previously rejected--and the Super Hornet was born.

Forget lawyers looking over the shoulder of a drone pilot ready to pull the trigger on a dirt insurgent. Big-dollar military industrial complex contracting is were the iron crosses grow for real lawfare.

The legal battle of who should pay what between the contractor and the government for the cancellation of the A-12 still rages on today.

"The Supreme Court unanimously overturned a lower court ruling that would have required Boeing and General Dynamics to repay billions in federal payment, instead sending the 20-year old case over the failed A-12 stealth fighter jet back for further litigation."

The U.S. Government and Lockheed Martin figure that the alleged life of the F-35 program could go out to 2065. If it is cancelled in the coming years--alternatives and all that--this may be true; for the legal fallout anyway. And what historical lessons do you think industry lawyers looked at when they wrote up F-35 contracts for the government to sign? In the war to make bullet-proof contracts, traditionally, who has better lawyers; industry or government?