Monday, July 11, 2011

Enjoy your carbon tax citizen



So the government is going ahead with the carbon tax.

This should get interesting. After all, the scam is based on the great global warming swindle.

In the old days, the Australian government was created to support business. The current government is business unfriendly. Without all the stuff that is dug up out of the ground and sold to other countries, the Australian economy would not be much. Yet, this current government is trying to destroy our prosperity.

Just over a year ago an attempt at a tax-grab by government cost the PM his job. The current PM is in political peril. If there was a vote today, I doubt she or her party would be in power.

The alternatives to the current party are just as much of a joke. The party lead by a not-so-bright Tony Abbott (who also believes in the global warming scam) claims that they are “conservative”; maybe like a Maine Republican (not that today’s Republicans are that conservative—they sure love their wars).

The Greens? They hate business even worse. At least they have the guts to call the Australian involvement in Afghanistan unnecessary unlike the chicken-hawks from the other two parties.

Funnier still is a publication here called The Australian Financial Review. One would think these people would be business-friendly but that doesn’t seem to be the case with a lot of their writers fawning over the carbon tax con.

But back to that “interesting” thing. It will be interesting to see various organisations (those that are lucky enough) pass this tax on to the consumer. That is what businesses do. They pass along extra expenses like the carbon tax onto the consumer.

Those unlucky enough may find themselves out of business. For instance; data centres. They consume a lot of electricity and have been aggressive (so as to be competitive) at finding ways to save energy. However, this carbon tax could be the last straw; especially with all the hype about putting data into the “cloud”. I wonder where clueless politicians think the cloud is? It may end up being off-shored as competition that doesn’t have to pay Rocko and Moose extortion money (aka, the carbon tax) takes the business.

And what if other countries find out they can get a percentage of raw materials from other countries for less because Australian business has to hand over extra money to the government? What then?

It will be interesting seeing this bloated government operate with an ever decreasing tax base.

Maybe voters will stop putting politicians into office who have never run a business. I doubt it, but it is possible. Until then, enjoy your carbon tax.

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9 comments:

S O said...

"So the government is going ahead with the carbon tax.

This should get interesting. After all, the scam is [...]"

Such a tax is a pigou tax, and even if there was no global warming at all, it would still be a pigou tax and justified by a replenishable resource saving motif.

Pigou taxes are the most preferable kind of tax, for their distortion effect on the economy is actually a contribution to general welfare instead of detrimental (unless you set the rate way too high).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigou_tax

There is much political propaganda in the anglophone world, especially in the U.S. - special interests have managed to convince many anglophone people that a carbon tax is a bad thing. That's a perversion of reality.

A carbon tax well done does not only create revenues - it can also improve the society's general welfare without taking the advantageous effects of government spending the revenues into account.


Governments need to have revenues, and pigou taxes are the most preferable revenue in economic theory. You cannot find a better revenue source in economic theory.


You need to understand the concept of externalities to grasp a pigou tax, of course. Public political discourse rarely pays attention to such things and rather discusses the special interest-driven noise from lobbyists, pundits and think tanks.

energo said...

Some reasonable arguments there Elp and there are certainly interesting arguments in the documentary. Although - in the name of fruitful debate - not all appear just as straightforward:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle#Reception_and_criticism

B. Bolsøy
Oslo

energo said...

Trying again:
http://tinyurl.com/3994qy

Unknown said...

Great S.O. So Australia needs more taxes. We are already up to our eyeballs in them.

There is a difference between doing the right thing with polution and jumping on with a carbon tax based on questionable science.

And Energo; did you actually watch the film? Those are actual people of science who disagree.

Where here in Australia (and it seems elsewhere) one is not allowed to disagree: which is not the scientific way.

Also, watch Al Gores an inconvenient truth. That of course gets little or any criticism from the rabid left.

energo said...

ELP. As mentioned the film has some interesting points and some doubtful ones (adressed by scientists). Yes I think there is something called the "rabid left", not at least some environmental activist organisations with autocratic leaderships (making big bucks for themselves).

B. Bolsøy
Oslo

SpudmanWP said...

You have to cut this out.. this is the second thing we agree upon recently ;)

Peter said...

If there was a federal election tomorrow the ALP (Julia) would be decimated, similar in proportions to what happened at the recent NSW state election me thinks. I’m not Anthony Green (ABC election expert) but when your poll results are in the 20’s, well you get it.
I’m not a barometer of what the average person thinks, but I’ll have a crack.
I personally have kept my job through the GFC. However overtime is very rare. My extremely generous employer has turned tighter than a nuns you know what. All the lads are walking on egg shells at work as far as job security goes!
My power bill and every other bill is going north rapidly.
I have cut back unnecessary travelling around as it saves money and of course I want to do my little bit to keep the air a bit cleaner.
I don’t run my air con all day anymore as it …..
I didn’t vote for a carbon tax( I don’t remember it being mentioned) I voted for a Labor government as I didn’t want a Work choices light from the Liberals. Workchoices was great if you had very rare skills but for the rest of us, not so much.
Chinas new emissions in six weeks will wipe out whatever we save in a full year, or something like that.
It’s been very cold down here in Adelaide this year, I thought it was supposed to be getting warmer??
Professor Ian Plimer at the Adelaide Uni says man made climate change is a crock and he has a lot of letters after his name and I thought all the boffins agreed?

So from the same group whom gave us the pink batt affair, a knifed PM (Rudd), love him or hate him I and lots of others voted for him, schools rorts, 12 submarines to stop the commy invaders and the Joint Junk fighter, ladies and gents I present to you, the carbon tax.
I’d love to be snorting whatever it is they’re snorting in Canberra these days.

Albatross said...

It's time everyone stopped calling it a carbon tax and started calling it what it really is: a wealth re-distribution tax.

Atticus said...

This is what is really going on!
http://www.vexnews.com/2011/07/hot-heads-political-correspondent-advocates-e
http://dai.ly/fgh6YX
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