Friday, July 6, 2012

Air power

"I did review the HUD footage, a lot of gun shots from the F-22's to the Eurofighters and not a whole lot coming back."

Good update from Dave Majumdar.

We stopped production of the F-22, you know.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Not sure how many have already viewed this particular F-22 ACM training vid... but it's worth the watch for any enthusiast who hasn't yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOl_r7FGMQg

Skip to 2:30, around 5:30 and then 7:30 for actual ACM maneuvering shots.

Not bad in a worse case phone booth scenario... and arguably better than the F-15 and standard F-16 at least.

Now enter an F-16 with GE-132 and TVC and it might be interesting to see how competitive in performance such an upgrade might be?

S O said...

Gun shots are irrelevant.

Eurofighters have helmet visors and can cue IRIS-T missiles at huge off-boresight angles. Who needs gunshot videos if he can aim, lock on, fire and kill long before?

The two perspectives are perfectly compatible if you assume that the F-22 drivers went for gun shot kills and the EF drivers went for IRIS-T lock-on kills.

The latter is much more relevant to actual combat, of course.

Unknown said...

Not completely. A HOBS-heater shot as the end-all-be-all assumes one always sees the opponent and of course still has some HOBS-heaters on-board to shoot.
But yeah, HOBS-heaters are pretty deadly.
The other observation in all of this is to note how the F-35 would bring nothing of value to a WVR environment let alone any other parts of an air-to-air scenario.

Flasheart said...

Except its own HOBS, turn performance between an F-16 and F-18, and the observability to turn up to a merge undetected by fighter radars.

ALERT 1 said...

FLASEHEART, +1.