Friday, July 6, 2012

2 new illegal-boat-people transporters for the RAN on-track?

Yippee!

The Navy/DMO/Defence cabal can't maintain current ships or submarines; has to ask the Spanish Navy for a defacto support ship rental and has not enough patrol ships at the ready to repel illegal boat-people if so ordered. Yet the RAN will get two, giant dream-ships which will have big question marks surrounding them in all areas of operations and sustainment.

Maybe the RAN can scare up just enough crew for these ships to go to the docks in Indonesia, pick up illegal boat-people, thus making their travels much safer rather than paying a middle man to boat them a ways then call for a RAN happy-taxi.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Austal seems to offer a lot of what AUS could require.

I've always approved of the 100m flexible JHSV, which could literally be converted into multiple modular uses and to satisfy many requirements.

Sit a couple out at a time in open waters as Mother ships and operate UAV from them for a broad surveillance capacity and maritime patrol?

And Austal's 58m Cape Class Patrol boat with claimed 4000km patrol range would seem to be a fair complement for general deterrence, presence and maritime interdiction as needed.

Acquire a used 2,000-3,000 guest capactiy Cruise Liner, with a perhaps a $100m refurb. Use as an at-sea Humanitarian relief support vessel? (HRSV)??

Put the word out that any sea-going seekers would be safely rescued at any and all attempt and transported to the HRSV for basic humanitarian care and bedding for a period of up to one month. Each month, said HRSV could make a pre-arranged cruise to a return port of call for repatriation?

Of course, no policy is 100% effective or fair in such an unfortunate case... eg, with ambitious and genuinely good people merely trying to seek a better life for themselves and their children.

Have to respect humanity though and be firm in encouraging more rights and opportunities everywhere, in my opinion at least. It's not meddling to be an advocate for more rights and opportunities. It's about being firm in the most part on what's right and mutually beneficial.

Anon2 said...

Are you being funny?

Anonymous said...

Who... me? Or Elp? What's your case study.

Anon 2 said...

Ah you are.
Very good.

Anonymous said...

" genuinely good people merely trying to seek a better life for themselves and their children."
You really are kidding.
What planet do you come from?

Anonymous said...

Quote
"Acquire a used 2,000-3,000 guest capactiy Cruise Liner, with a perhaps a $100m refurb. Use as an at-sea Humanitarian relief support vessel? (HRSV)??

Put the word out that any sea-going seekers would be safely rescued at any and all attempt and transported to the HRSV for basic humanitarian care and bedding for a period of up to one month. Each month, said HRSV could make a pre-arranged cruise to a return port of call for repatriation?"
What and encourage even more economic efugees?
How do you propose to pay for this.
Current estimates are that each ILLLEGAL entrant costs the taxpayer $250,000 for the first year alone.
Then when they obtain temporary residence they are entitled to bring family.
Multiply the single entrant by 4.
Get the picture!

Anonymous said...

Your plan would work hunky dory - until the 3000 "guests" mutinied (as they've already proved works fine a la the Oceanic Viking) and demanded to be taken straight to Sydney Harbour - the whole 3000 of them in one hit.

Anonymous said...

LOL Anon 10:04... ok, fair enough. Let's revise the plan, not cancel it?

And to Anon 10:53, did you read the rest of my proposal? It did NOT include any $250k per soul residence funding promise... it was an at-sea humanitarian relief hub, from which said high-risk at-sea migrants could be rescued and then returned to home-port, accordingly.

It would be a deterrent (albeit humanitarian), not a bigger green light to go-for-it!

With respect to anon 10:04, perhaps max out the rescued party capacity at 2k... and include a sufficient sized humanitarian volunteer crew (a la Peace corps volunteers) to feed and care for rooms daily, in addition to any sufficient at-sea law-enforcement/security team requirement.

Why not create an 'at-sea' 'Constitution' every rescued dweller can sign before boarding... which respects the rules and intentions of the said at-sea relief/rescue ship!

Give a choice... the well-intended souls can sign on to that... or be returned directly more immediately within the direct police/military infrastructure available if it's rejected?

The point is about creating a fair and respectable system by which to better counter the immediate issue... while politicians deal with and better grasp the longer term political issues on how to handle the humanitarian phenom. imho.

Anonymous said...

Anon 8.41.
These people are not asylum seekers, they are economic illegal que jumpers.
They have no ID, they are set on going to Australia so that our society can feed and look after them.
They will sail around your luxury liner and head for Australia.
They do and will cost $250k per person until it stops.

They have corrupted the Social Housing in Australia, and the medical system.

The Australian quoted Dept figures some months ago, pointing out that since 2007, over 86% are still unemployed or on disability pensions.
For every single person arriving, that becomes four with family reunion.
You and I are paying for it.

Anonymous said...

Do not forget the security problem.
For example 24 Afghans arrested in Thailand yesterday. Several are apparently militants, on their way to Australia.
If these people have no papers, how can we control our security.

Unknown said...

It made me curious when I first read that RAN will get two dream ships, now I am eagerly for the delivery. I would love to see how things will change and affect those who are not illegal-boat people. Boat transporting

Unknown said...

I got little stressed when I first read that Nany/Dmo/Defence does not have enough petrol ships.
Bur then-after I read that they have found the solution to fight against this problem. I felt relieved

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